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		<title>By: The Walking Dead, Season 1 Episode 1: &#8220;Days Gone By&#8221; &#124; Hot Wax Mealworms</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Walking Dead, Season 1 Episode 1: &#8220;Days Gone By&#8221; &#124; Hot Wax Mealworms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pretty much agree with everything Sean T Collins says about this episode here. Namely, the slow burn of the pace and the music being good, but the cheesy coma effect and music [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] pretty much agree with everything Sean T Collins says about this episode here. Namely, the slow burn of the pace and the music being good, but the cheesy coma effect and music [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Baugh</title>
		<link>http://seantcollins.com/2010/11/the-walking-dead-thoughts/#comment-9689</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Baugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 03:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found a lot to like - lots more to like than dislike. I can certainly understand someone deciding &quot;I&#039;m not coming back for more, at least not until there&#039;s solid reason to believe it&#039;s better&quot;, but I&#039;ll be back on Sunday to see how things go from here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found a lot to like &#8211; lots more to like than dislike. I can certainly understand someone deciding &#8220;I&#8217;m not coming back for more, at least not until there&#8217;s solid reason to believe it&#8217;s better&#8221;, but I&#8217;ll be back on Sunday to see how things go from here.</p>
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		<title>By: Casting Internets &#171; UnitedMonkee</title>
		<link>http://seantcollins.com/2010/11/the-walking-dead-thoughts/#comment-9688</link>
		<dc:creator>Casting Internets &#171; UnitedMonkee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 21:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sean, BC at HMAD and Tom &amp; Lorenzo all dug Walking Dead. I didn&#8217;t. This is like me disliking Spider-Man 2 all over again. That is all. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sean, BC at HMAD and Tom &amp; Lorenzo all dug Walking Dead. I didn&#8217;t. This is like me disliking Spider-Man 2 all over again. That is all. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt M.</title>
		<link>http://seantcollins.com/2010/11/the-walking-dead-thoughts/#comment-9687</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 14:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally watched this last night. Solid, entertaining. Yeah, there&#039;s some obvious gaffes. The music cue was horrible (and disappointing after they&#039;d done so well on the trailer at SDCC.) The nods to other horror/zombie films were indirect enough that they didn&#039;t scream HEY I LIKED THAT MOVIE TOO, though I wonder if they&#039;re direct nods necessarily or examples of convergent evolution. There were some things that got rushed, like the aborted hold-the-gun-and-pretend-suicide-while-apologizing-to-his-family under the tank. That shoulda been dropped or given full weight. But that&#039;s minor stuff. Though I will say that the arguably biggest shock in this episode (with Rick killing the little girl) was something Romero gave to us a long time ago (though not as well filmed).

I&#039;ll probably keep watching if they decide to keep streaming the episodes on their site (TWD is not something my wife wants to watch and I&#039;ll continue to respect that). Failing that, I&#039;ll watch the DVDs sometime. No, I don&#039;t own a DVR and don&#039;t see that changing. Though I&#039;ll note that I watch with breath held, because I&#039;m not sure that they&#039;re working towards an end in mind and while the hanging soap opera threads can work magnificently, they often don&#039;t. Stories gotta end and the way people rhapsodize about the comic being an endless zombie movie (whereas I lost patience with it a long time ago) fills me with suspicion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally watched this last night. Solid, entertaining. Yeah, there&#8217;s some obvious gaffes. The music cue was horrible (and disappointing after they&#8217;d done so well on the trailer at SDCC.) The nods to other horror/zombie films were indirect enough that they didn&#8217;t scream HEY I LIKED THAT MOVIE TOO, though I wonder if they&#8217;re direct nods necessarily or examples of convergent evolution. There were some things that got rushed, like the aborted hold-the-gun-and-pretend-suicide-while-apologizing-to-his-family under the tank. That shoulda been dropped or given full weight. But that&#8217;s minor stuff. Though I will say that the arguably biggest shock in this episode (with Rick killing the little girl) was something Romero gave to us a long time ago (though not as well filmed).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably keep watching if they decide to keep streaming the episodes on their site (TWD is not something my wife wants to watch and I&#8217;ll continue to respect that). Failing that, I&#8217;ll watch the DVDs sometime. No, I don&#8217;t own a DVR and don&#8217;t see that changing. Though I&#8217;ll note that I watch with breath held, because I&#8217;m not sure that they&#8217;re working towards an end in mind and while the hanging soap opera threads can work magnificently, they often don&#8217;t. Stories gotta end and the way people rhapsodize about the comic being an endless zombie movie (whereas I lost patience with it a long time ago) fills me with suspicion.</p>
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		<title>By: shags</title>
		<link>http://seantcollins.com/2010/11/the-walking-dead-thoughts/#comment-9686</link>
		<dc:creator>shags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 06:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah... I was okay up until the horse scene. Then I kind of wanted to die a little. Really hope they don&#039;t do this with other animals throughout the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230; I was okay up until the horse scene. Then I kind of wanted to die a little. Really hope they don&#8217;t do this with other animals throughout the show.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean T. Collins</title>
		<link>http://seantcollins.com/2010/11/the-walking-dead-thoughts/#comment-9677</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean T. Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really well put, Curt. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really well put, Curt. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 12:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Sean, we can draw a distinction between intent and effect.  The intent was to characterize.  With better execution, I&#039;m sure a lot more people would be inclined to see it in that light.  But it was poorly handled, in such a way that the effect was misogynist.  I&#039;m not saying and don&#039;t think Darabont is personally sexist, but if the internets are any indication, his misjudgment about how that scene would come across has squandered a lot of enthusiasm and goodwill on the part of female fans of the comic and the women they convinced on message boards, comment threads, and such that this show would be worth a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Sean, we can draw a distinction between intent and effect.  The intent was to characterize.  With better execution, I&#8217;m sure a lot more people would be inclined to see it in that light.  But it was poorly handled, in such a way that the effect was misogynist.  I&#8217;m not saying and don&#8217;t think Darabont is personally sexist, but if the internets are any indication, his misjudgment about how that scene would come across has squandered a lot of enthusiasm and goodwill on the part of female fans of the comic and the women they convinced on message boards, comment threads, and such that this show would be worth a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean T. Collins</title>
		<link>http://seantcollins.com/2010/11/the-walking-dead-thoughts/#comment-9674</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean T. Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 11:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt, my point is simply that I think that conversation is more reflective of the characters than of the filmmakers. If the show never gives us anything to offset that attitude, then I think it&#039;s a topic that can and should be revisited in no uncertain terms; but for now, the fact that you cited Mad Men as an example of a great television show is illustration that problematic ideas about women placed in the mouths of a show&#039;s characters are not necessarily indicative of a problematic approach to women by that show&#039;s creators.

Also, it seems like there&#039;s a logical flaw in saying &quot;Darabont&#039;s a lousy writer because he made a character a sexist pig just to make him look shitty and the main character look better&quot; and then also hold Darabont to account for that sexism. The point of the sexism was to say &quot;this character is a dick,&quot; right.

I&#039;m not saying it was a good scene--it wasn&#039;t--or that it was a great idea to lead with--it wasn&#039;t--or even that all the negative things you can show your characters doing are equal--I think it&#039;s easier to understand that when The Sopranos showed Tony running a guy over with his car and then kicking his broken leg in the first epsiode, that&#039;s not an endorsement of running people over on David Chase&#039;s part, where as the dividing line between attitudes expressed by characters and filmmakers can be a much trickier thing to parse. It&#039;s just that I&#039;m not comfortable citing it as characteristic of the show or as a turn-off for the whole thing. I understand that other people have had a much different reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt, my point is simply that I think that conversation is more reflective of the characters than of the filmmakers. If the show never gives us anything to offset that attitude, then I think it&#8217;s a topic that can and should be revisited in no uncertain terms; but for now, the fact that you cited Mad Men as an example of a great television show is illustration that problematic ideas about women placed in the mouths of a show&#8217;s characters are not necessarily indicative of a problematic approach to women by that show&#8217;s creators.</p>
<p>Also, it seems like there&#8217;s a logical flaw in saying &#8220;Darabont&#8217;s a lousy writer because he made a character a sexist pig just to make him look shitty and the main character look better&#8221; and then also hold Darabont to account for that sexism. The point of the sexism was to say &#8220;this character is a dick,&#8221; right.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying it was a good scene&#8211;it wasn&#8217;t&#8211;or that it was a great idea to lead with&#8211;it wasn&#8217;t&#8211;or even that all the negative things you can show your characters doing are equal&#8211;I think it&#8217;s easier to understand that when The Sopranos showed Tony running a guy over with his car and then kicking his broken leg in the first epsiode, that&#8217;s not an endorsement of running people over on David Chase&#8217;s part, where as the dividing line between attitudes expressed by characters and filmmakers can be a much trickier thing to parse. It&#8217;s just that I&#8217;m not comfortable citing it as characteristic of the show or as a turn-off for the whole thing. I understand that other people have had a much different reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Zom</title>
		<link>http://seantcollins.com/2010/11/the-walking-dead-thoughts/#comment-9673</link>
		<dc:creator>Zom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 10:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points well made, Curt. I&#039;ve been thinking pretty much the same thing re that scene being an absolutely terrible opener.

That Wang Chung business was AWFUL. I was embarrassed for Darabont at that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points well made, Curt. I&#8217;ve been thinking pretty much the same thing re that scene being an absolutely terrible opener.</p>
<p>That Wang Chung business was AWFUL. I was embarrassed for Darabont at that point.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://seantcollins.com/2010/11/the-walking-dead-thoughts/#comment-9672</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 04:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D&#039;oh!  Somehow, I posted that comment before I finished it.  Look--I don&#039;t mean to &lt;a href=&quot;http://groovyageofhorror.blogspot.com/2010/02/understanding-comics-more-about-closure.html?showComment=1265851545912#c6515419878738909010&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;impugn your integrity&lt;/a&gt; or anything like that, Sean, and I do see what you&#039;re saying, but I can&#039;t help regarding that conversation as a Big Lose--a completely needless one--for almost everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;oh!  Somehow, I posted that comment before I finished it.  Look&#8211;I don&#8217;t mean to <a href="http://groovyageofhorror.blogspot.com/2010/02/understanding-comics-more-about-closure.html?showComment=1265851545912#c6515419878738909010" rel="nofollow">impugn your integrity</a> or anything like that, Sean, and I do see what you&#8217;re saying, but I can&#8217;t help regarding that conversation as a Big Lose&#8211;a completely needless one&#8211;for almost everyone.</p>
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